Thursday, May 5, 2016

CMTV Download remains politically correct

Image result for Photos of the Download program  CMTV michael VorisAnother polite Download which does not speak the truth!
There is not just ambiguity in Amoris Laeitia (AL).There is heresy in n.301.Similarly there is not just ambiguity in Vatican Council II but there is an objective mistake.It encourages ambiguity and heresy.Likewise in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 there is not only confusion but heresy.It suggests irrationally that there can be known exceptions to the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).It is as if they knew of some exception.
The Church Militant TV (CMTV) Download says there is ambiguity in AL and asks that the bishops and cardinals remove the confusion.Since CMTV cannot do this.It's a load they cannot download.CMTV cannot say that AL is heretical since the Staff assumes there are known exceptions to the traditional teachings on mortal sin.No mention was made of AL n.301.
CMTV's moral theology, like their salvation theology,has always had holes.They go down before the contemporary magisterium while they contradict the magisterium of the Council of Trent.
Image result for Photos of Bishop Barron and word on fireOn a Vortex program, Michael Voris, while uploading liberal theology, suggests not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.Even for Bishop Barron, not every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Church for salvation.For both of them there are known cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire without the baptism of water, in 2016.
 So when the CMTV staff read the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1992) they assume being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire , refer not to physically invisible but to physically visible cases saved without the baptism of water.Quite a load.The result is the rejection of the dogma EENS( Cushingism has replaced Feeneyism), a change in the Nicene Creed ( I believe in three or more known baptisms without the baptism of water and they include the baptism of desire and blood, seeds of the Word, imperfect communion with the Church etc).The Athanasius Creed has to be stored away and Vatican Council II downloaded  with known ambiguity and heresy i.e in conflict with EENS according to the Church Councils and the 16th century Jesuit missionaries, who were faithful to the Faith.
CMTV like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the St. Benedict Center in Worcester, USA for example, interpret Vatican Council II (with visible for us LG 16).It is a  break with EENS( Feeneyite version).Both upload error.
Ralph Martin was recommended in a previous Download program.For him too theologically , there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS.The baptism of desire is visible instead of invisible.
Image result for Photos of Ralph Martin's book on salvationRalph Martin, like CMTV, supports the error of the contemporary  magisterium and rejects the magisterium before the Baltimore Catechism was issued.
They all project known exceptions to the traditional teaching on  faith and morals.Even Vatican Council II is interpreted with subjectivism assumed to be objective.
So they cannot see the heretical statement in AL 301 or they can it see it but do not want to mention it.
CMTV and the U.S ecclesiastics, have been observing 'voluntary silence' on this issue.They even allow Catholic school children in Detroit, to be taught this error.
Even bishops Cordileone and Kevin Rhoades,mentioned in a previous Vortex, have an irrational and heretical theology and expect their Catholic school teachers to affirm it.
So this was another wasted program of CMTV supporting the liberal bishops whose approval Michael Voris and Simon Rafe need. They could not present the Faith clearly and directly.
We got the download.
-Lionel Andrades

The Download May 2, 2016—'Amoris Laetitia'
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/the-download-may-2-2016amoris-laetitia.html

https://youtu.be/QCMWuiP4P04

You have to interpret it irrationally to make it an exception.

Comments from the blog Musings of a Pertinacious Papist : What was Cardinal Schönborn thinking?

Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
Hey, Lionel. You are not a Catholic for you deny that which axiomatically incurs ANATHEMA, , Capiche?
Lionel:
'The desire thereof' does not refer to a personally known, objective case.So it is not an explicit exception to EENS. For you it is an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
For me it is a hypothetical case. For you it is an objective case and so is relevant to EENS.
I can affirm 'the desiretherof' and also EENS according to the 16th century missionaries. It does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.
For you 'the desirethereof' refers to explicit cases, this is irrational, objectively false and contradicts EENS as it was known over the centuries.
You have to interpret EENS with Cushingism ( the desire thereof is visible ) instead of Feeneyism( the desire thereof is invisible and hypothetical). This is HERESY.

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The Council of Trent
The Sixth Session
The canons and decrees of the sacred
and oecumenical Council of Trent,
Celebrated on the thirteenth day of the month of January, 1547.
DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION

CHAPTER IV.
A description is introduced of the Justification of the impious, and of the Manner thereof under the law of grace.
By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof,
Lionel:
Which in all cases would include the laver of regeneration i.e the baptism of water.
You do not know of any exception and the text here does not state that 'the desire thereof' is an exception.It has to be wrongly inferred by you that 'the desire thereof' refers to an explicit case and is not hypothetical. It then becomes an exception to all needing the laver of regeneration.
You have to interpret it irrationally to make it an exception.Fundamental philosophy!
-Lionel Andrades


Part 1: Cardinal Schönborn's presentation in Austria of 'Amoris Laetitia'
https://youtu.be/0YCgrWiLlSc


Part 2: Cardinal Schönborn's presentation in Austria of 'Amoris Laetitia'
https://youtu.be/x500I7EKwXs


http://pblosser.blogspot.it/2016/04/what-was-cardinal-schonborn-thinking.html